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Webmaster online promotion chat with Joel Comm Specially for stumblers and friends...

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Welcome to that chat. Please be kind and considerate of others. Manners are enforced here. Any use of flaming or
inappropriate language will get you booted and your IP banned.
Feb 1 6:25 AM [JoelComm] and being a yorkshire terrier owner, I am more likely to visit the latter than the others as
it is targeted to my specific niche
Feb 1 6:25 AM [Etherfast] *test*
Feb 1 6:26 AM [JoelComm] you just have to analyze the possibilities and see what is an area that is a good fit for
you
Feb 1 6:26 AM [JoelComm] my mother is big into adventure travel
Feb 1 6:26 AM [JoelComm] she does crazy stuff like camping at the base of Mt Everest
Feb 1 6:26 AM [JoelComm] riding camels in the desert.. she's nuts...
Feb 1 6:26 AM [JoelComm] but I encouraged her to blog about it.
Feb 1 6:26 AM [JoelComm] so her site is very niched at www.travelswithsheila.com
Feb 1 6:27 AM [JoelComm] she loves to blog about her passion and make a few dollars/day with AdSense...
Feb 1 6:27 AM [JoelComm] and it continues to grow as she adds more content.
Feb 1 6:27 AM [JoelComm] an extremely niched site might not get as much traffic as a broader site...
Feb 1 6:27 AM [JoelComm] but if you are doing what you love... its a good deal
Feb 1 6:27 AM [JoelComm] and besides, she gets to write off all her travel as business expense!
Feb 1 6:27 AM [jonathanleger] Awesome. Ok, next question:
Feb 1 6:28 AM [jonathanleger] Is there a good way to stop ads from showing that have the same spelling but are not
related (i.e. Palm Tree ads showing for a Palm OS page)?
[JoelComm] ideally, Google's AdSense bot should be able to analyze the entire page and determine correct ads to
show..
[JoelComm] but this does happen occasionally.
[JoelComm] only thing you can do is make sure you have enough references to your main keywords and...
[JoelComm] block individual specific URLS in the AdSense admin tool
[JoelComm] other than that, Google hasn't developed more sophisticated tools yet.. I Wish they would
[jonathanleger] Me, too.
[jonathanleger] Okay, next:
[JoelComm] it's coming.. they are smart.
[jonathanleger] Is it advisable to open AdSense clicks in a new window so you don't lose your visitor after a single
click?

[JoelComm] no, in fact it is a violation of terms of service I believe
[JoelComm] its the price you pay for the click
[JoelComm] Google is picky that way.. ;-)
[jonathanleger] I thought so myself.
[jonathanleger] Okay, next:
[jonathanleger] Should I create pages that are a bit off topic but whose keyword bids look really good?
[JoelComm] only if you plan on continually maintaining those sites... adding content regularly
[JoelComm] I didn't marry a woman that I thought I might abandon if the marriage didn't work like I wanted...
[JoelComm] by the same token..
[JoelComm] I don't like to build sites that I don't plan on investing in and staying with
[JoelComm] I've made that mistake and it is a time-waster
[JoelComm] it is better to focus
[JoelComm] again, its like any good business.
[JoelComm] you have to be committed and focused on the long-term
[JoelComm] if people would grasp that concept and realize that they are in this for the long haul, they would have
more to show for their efforts down the road
[jonathanleger] Good point.
[jonathanleger] Next question:
[JoelComm] fire when ready
[jonathanleger] You covered a little bit of this, but...
[jonathanleger] Do you earn your AdSense income more from a few large sites or from many small ones? Which method do
you recommend most?
[JoelComm] I earn the majority of my AdSense income from 3 sites... and one is significantly larger than the others
[JoelComm] I "dabble" with other sites cause I like to experiment... and I can afford the time to do so
[JoelComm] it depends on the person
[JoelComm] i don't recommend building 100 sites if that is what you mean
[JoelComm] can't possibly keep up with that
[JoelComm] remember, if your site isn't updated regularly and consistently, the search engine spiders won't visit
often

[Ted Gambrell] Is adsense arbitrage doable and/or a good idea
[JoelComm] so you want to focus on what you are able to accomplish.. and with excellence
[Micle Mihai Cristian] If someone would ask you "What is your JOB?" - What would be your answer ?!
[jonathanleger] Everyone be quiet please.
[jonathanleger] Great to hear that Joel.
[JoelComm] gotta answer that anyway.. I don't have a job. I do what I love. Money comes as a result :-)
[jonathanleger] I'm sure your answer came as both a surprise and a relief to everybody. A lot of people think it
takes hundreds of sites to do well. Glad to hear from you that it doesn't.
[JoelComm] but I won't answer any more off the cuff.. gotta come from Jon else we have chaos
[jonathanleger] thx. Okay, next question:
[JoelComm] nope.. like I said.. I have several friends that make more than I do with ONE site!
[JoelComm] gopher it
[jonathanleger] How old are your top AdSense earning sites?
[JoelComm] 7 years
[JoelComm] but I would have made money with AdSense on it year #1 if AdSense had existed then
[JoelComm] realize that Google didn't launch the program until 2003.. so my site was four years old
[JoelComm] and I messed up for 9 months with AdSense.. didn't figure out how to do it properly until Spring 2004
[JoelComm] that's when I "cracked" the Adsense Code    
[jonathanleger] Haha. Cool. Next:
[jonathanleger] What is your criteria for deciding if it's worth creating a site or page on a certain topic?
[JoelComm] 1) Do I give a rip about the topic?
[JoelComm] If not, I probably won't be able to put my heart and soul into it.. not just for a buck
[JoelComm] 2) can I give it the time and attention it deserves?
[JoelComm] If not, I prob need to focus on my existing projects
[JoelComm] other than that, things like keyword values don't matter to me
[JoelComm] In fact, my best paying AdSense sites has low paying keywords
[JoelComm] I make up for it with volume of traffic
[JoelComm] with the amount of traffic I get, I could probably make 5 times what I am making now if I had high paying
keywords

[JoelComm] oh well.. I love the site and so do my visitors
[jonathanleger] Great. Next question:
[jonathanleger] Do you have any comments on the new AdSense rule that third party advertisers cannot be made to look
like AdSense?
[JoelComm] that rule has been there all along!
[JoelComm] the good news is that Google has clarified some things that allow publishers to take on new opportunities
[JoelComm] for example, we know that you can't run YPN on the same pages with AdSense...
[JoelComm] though you CAN run them on different pages...
[JoelComm] but now they have told us that other contextual services, such as Chitika, Kontera, Intellitxt, Amazon
Omakase and others like it CAN coexist on the same pages as AdSense!
[JoelComm] I added Kontera to my forums last week and instantly increased my income $70/day without taking anything
away from my AdSense earnings!
[JoelComm] Kontera is cool
[JoelComm] and they have had a steep requirement for their program... 500,000 impressions/month
[JoelComm] however, if you follow this link, you can apply and tell them I sent you... they are willing to work with
small publishers that I refer
[JoelComm] www.adsense-secrets.com/kontera.html
[James B] Sorry if this was asked before, but...what about this for adsense...NEW! We've improved custom channels -
now, you have the option to enable any custom channel to be targeted by advertisers. You can also update any existing
custom channels to allow advertiser targeting.

[jonathanleger] Great Joel, thanks!
[jonathanleger] Next question:
[jonathanleger] How can you protect from invalid clicks, or somebody trying to sabotage your AdSense account?
[JoelComm] I know of two excellent programs Jon.. one is yours and one is mine!
[JoelComm] AdSense Tracker... install it on your server and watch your clicks
[JoelComm] I assume tracker watches all IPs, right?
[jonathanleger] Yup.
[JoelComm] My program is AdSenseDetective.com
[JoelComm] it is server -based.. paste the code on your pages and we track all ads that are clicked as well as their
origination
[JoelComm] I recently heard from someone that had their account closed due to "invalid clicks"
[JoelComm] they went to their AdSEnse Detective and found multiple clicks from a foreign IP
[JoelComm] they sent the logs to Google and got their account reinstated.
[JoelComm] It's a no-brainer way to secure your account
[JoelComm] either product will do the trick
[JoelComm] other than that, never click your own ads
[JoelComm] and don't ask anyone to click your ads...
[JoelComm] not worth it
[jonathanleger] I'll add: RUN from those "click sharing" scam sites that promise a big ring of people clicking your
ads for you.
[jonathanleger] Ok, next question:

[JoelComm] big time
[jonathanleger] What methods do you use to get people to your AdSense sites?
[JoelComm] threaten to steal their candy
[JoelComm] haha
[JoelComm] I don't look at it as "AdSense" sites, first of all
[JoelComm] they are my web sites... one way I monetize them is with AdSEnse.
[JoelComm] but we don't build sites JUST to make money with AdSense.
[JoelComm] that said...
[JoelComm] quality content is key... it will automatically make people want to bookmark and visit again, right?
[JoelComm] proper search engine optimization on your pages is important so the search engines can find and index you
[JoelComm] getting links from niche-related sites is a good thing for pagerank and incoming traffic
[JoelComm] blogging and pinging (the RIGHT way) on a regular basis is a great method
[JoelComm] creating press release via PRWeb.com or similar service... especially if you can embed keyword links in
your release... great tool

[JoelComm] writing and syndicating articles at places like ezinearticles.com
[JoelComm] can be very beneficial
[JoelComm] viral campaigns where people are encouraged to tell-a-friend
[JoelComm] contests... sweepstakes... word of mouth
[JoelComm] those are just some of the ways... be creative!
[jonathanleger] Some great ideas there Joel. Next question:
[JoelComm] good thing I can type fast!
[jonathanleger] What's your opinion of creating subdomains for various keywords / topics?
[JoelComm] varies site to site... hard to say which is best.
[JoelComm] On one hand...

[JoelComm] one domain with subdomains keep everything on one site.
[JoelComm] on the other, if they site falls out of favor with search engines, there goes the neighborhood
[JoelComm] If you are doing it for keyword optimization, I wouldn't bother.
[JoelComm] but if you are doing it because it makes sense... like mail.google.com and news.google.com, it is fine
[JoelComm] in my humble opinion
[jonathanleger] Cool.
[jonathanleger] Well, we're running out of time folks.
[JoelComm] yeah, sorry about that.. I've got a call with my coaching club shortly

[jonathanleger] I wanted to make sure that everybody knew that you can get Joel's wisdom compiled into a fat ebook
that answers so many more questions than we have time to cover here.
[jonathanleger] Joel, we're all just glad you made it!
[JoelComm] it's not just fat.. it's phat! ;-)
[jonathanleger] My last question to you is: have you lost your mind??? You're book is only $20 now. Why?
[JoelComm]  
[JoelComm] it's true.. I'm nuts.
[JoelComm] My 199-page ebook has sold for $97 for two years now.
[JoelComm] it is in its third edition...
[JoelComm] and I decided I wanted to make this info as accessible as possible to as many people as possible
[JoelComm] so they get one chance to snag the ebook and bonuses for $19.95...
[JoelComm] that includes a 30-page case study report
[JoelComm] the AdSense Buddy PC stat tracking software
[JoelComm] a free month of AdSense Detective
[JoelComm] and a one-month trial to my coaching club..
[JoelComm] crazy, eh?
[jonathanleger] Very! Here's the link:
[jonathanleger] http://www.jonathanleger.com/recommends/joel.php
[jonathanleger] I have, of course, read your book--and highly recommend it.
[JoelComm] warning! you can only view the page ONE time
[JoelComm] if you leave the page or refresh it, you will see the $97 price
[JoelComm] don't believe me? try it... but I'd buy the book first..

[jonathanleger] Well thank you so very, very much for coming Joel. I know you're a busy guy, and I take it as a
personal honor that you were willing to come today.
[JoelComm] it's my pleasure Jon.. I follow your work closely and appreciate all you do to help people
[JoelComm] and I appreciate the questions as well..
[jonathanleger] Thanks. I appreciate it.
[JoelComm] sorry I didn't have time to answer all of them...
[JoelComm] sorry I didn't have time to answer all of them...
[JoelComm] but its actually snowing here in Oklahoma and roads are getting bad...
[jonathanleger] No problem. You did us a world of good!
[JoelComm] so my wife wants me to head home
[TominDenver] Joel - heard you are moving to that NEW snowy state...dont' worry, it doesn't snow that often!
[JoanBielby] Thank you both!
[JoelComm] yup, heading to Colorado NEXT WEEK!
[jonathanleger] Believe it or not, it snowed here in Dallas, too.
[JoelComm] ok.. now everyone can speak up to say good bye...
[jonathanleger] Colorado is beautiful.
[Kuruma Suzuki] hey Joel, it was nice seeing you online, realtime. talk to you later!
[carmine gallicchio] is this similar to the real book or is there more info for us

[Ken Myers] Thanks it was great!
[BrittMalka] No snow in France. Than you, Joel :-)
[TominDenver] trust me this is UNBELIEVEABLE weather..so hopefully it won't give you that bad impression
[seltz] thank you and goodbye
[cstad@sbcglobal.net] Thank you Both.
[dave small] cheers Guys
[TominDenver] laters
[Glenn Fournier] Thanks for your time joel
[GordonS] Thanks for all the great info Joel
[Yvon Elysee] Thanks a lot Joel
[Mark Ramos] Thanks Joel
[ksenija] byby
[JerryGreene] Thanks Joel and Jon
[mark] Joel & Jonathan, it would be great to have a Q & A Session for us to ask 1 question each!!!
[Pat F] Thanks so much, Joel! And Jon!
[jonathanleger] And don't worry everybody. Your free gift is coming up next.
[Arthur Cundy] good stuff Joel

[joshua] Thanks so much!!
[Antrikkos] Where is the gisft?????????
[LeeAnnSummers] Thank you both, very informative
[Ted Gambrell] Thanks for your time and great info!
[keith] Can we have transcript of this call
[Kenneth Jones] Thanks for all your time Joel. I'm sure we all appreciate it!
[keith] PS thanks again
[bshearer] Xcellant
[Paul] thx Joel n Jon
[jonathanleger] There will be a transcript emailed to everybody.
[adiqiucorp] yeah...i want that free gift :))
[mclayson] thanks
[Deca] Thanks Joel and Jon!
[keith] Thanks
[Deano] Joel - Thanks a lot, you've got my cogs whirring. Travel safely.
[David Grant] thanks very much - great information
[TJ Short] Thanks
 
[TominDenver] Someone will move all this snow in Colorado? <G>
[Gene Gladden] Thanks Jonathan... Hope you can come visit San Luis Obispo, California soon. Talk to you later.
[jerrybindley] Thanx Guys!!
[adiqiucorp] thanks for your tme and information
[bjorg] Thanks
[paul dyer] Thnx Guys!
[Dave] Thanks Joel and Jonathan!
[Antrikkos] Joel would you like to exchange links?
[Stefan Fahlberg] Thank's Joel and Jon from a HOT Philippines   
[Mark Ramos] Thanks Jon for putting this together
[JoelComm] So long everyone!!!!
[Gregg Hall] Thanks guys
[jonathanleger] by Joel!
[Gregg Hall] Good job from both of you
[dcanaan] Todah Rabah y'all
[joshua] thank you jon
[NewbieSteve] Later
[jonathanleger] you're all very welcome. =)

[BrittMalka] Todah Rabah veShalom   
[Antrikkos] Joel Rocks!
[jonathanleger] Well, Joel is gone everybody.
[joshua] and his book is phat!
[jonathanleger] And I promised you a free gift, so listen up!
[Antrikkos] yes
[Paul] merci Joel et Jon     
[jonathanleger] Let's get quiet for just a minute so I can tell you about the free gift. Thanks!
[jonathanleger] Then you can all talk away. =)
[jonathanleger] You might remember the report I sold for $7 a few weeks ago about how I got 1,000 visitors to a web
site of mine in 24 hours using one video.
[Yvonne] Thanks a lot Joel and Jon
[Yvonne] n
[jonathanleger] I made $3,000 off of that one report in 7 days!
[jonathanleger] I decided to lay out a report on how I did that, as well as include the scripts I used to do it.
[jonathanleger] That's what I'm giving you for free for coming today:

[Fred] awesome
[Joseph] http://www.jonathanleger.com/recommends/joel.php link not working...says "no entries found"
[jonathanleger] The 34 page report that shows you how to create small, inexpensive infoproducts and make a mint plus
[Yvonne] Thank you!   
[Robert] Bless You!!
[BrittMalka] If they are not to Windoze it's great. I bought the book, though.
[jonathanleger] The scripts I use to make that happen.
[jonathanleger] They are PHP scripts.
[Micle Mihai Cristian] More free gifts in future.
[Pat F]   Yaay!
[jonathanleger] Here's the link to the ebook everybody (it has a link to the scripts in it):
[Jan Tincher] I had trouble with the link so I typed it in and it took me to the $97 page.
[Antrikkos] Thanks a lt Jonathan!!!
[adiqiucorp] i am addicted to free gifts :))
[jonathanleger] http://7dollarsecrets.com/9234/7DollarSecrets.pdf

[jonathanleger] And it's got a great way that you can earn money in minutes by reselling the report--the cash goes
right into your own PayPal account.
[seltz] got it, thx you
[Gregg Hall] thanks Jon. Please message me when you get a chance so we can continue our discussion
[Yvonne] got it - Thanks Jon
[jonathanleger] Read the report to find out how that works.
[ksenija] done
[adiqiucorp] thanks Jonathan. Who is going to be your next invite ?
[JerryGreene] Jon...quick question, do you still update EPCGold and Adsense gold Keywords?
[jonathanleger] Jerry: they are updated, yes, but in need of a new update.
[Jan Tincher] That link isn't working for me, either. Sorry. Is there another way to get to both ebooks? I seem to be having some trouble. Thanks.
[JerryGreene] Thanks

[jonathanleger] Jan: I'm not sure--they're both working for me.
[keith reed] Thanks
[Micle Mihai Cristian] Hmmm ... a lot of webmasters here ... I'm wondering someone would like to talk about some link exchanges ?!
[Yvon Elysee] Thanks a lot Jon
[jonathanleger] Jan: Put in a ticket at AskJonLeger.com and I'll get it worked out.
[TominDenver] might need to clear out your cache Jan (and cookies)
[Kristyne McDaniel] got it, thanks
[dave small] thanks Jon, appreciate your time and effort
[jonathanleger] Okay guys, I'm going to eat and then get the transcript put together. It should be available within
the hour.
[jason] Jon, are you going to offer the picture upload scripts for sure?
[Kristyne McDaniel] thanks for the chat
[jonathanleger] be back later.
[steve] Anybody have Automotive sites for link exchange?
[dcanaan] Jonathan, I'm having probs with Instant Article writer. Didn't I once see a video on it or a faq? Where can I find them?
[Fred] thanks for everything Jon
[dave small] take your time and enjoy your food
[ksenija] by Jon
[Pat F] Done! Thanks!

[bjorg] Thanks
[Antrikkos] where
is the script?
[jason] unique content, plrpro
[Joseph] www.urgentfury.com
[James B] yeah, where's the script?
[jason] web traffic, seo2020
[drwinn@griffingrid.com] Jon, if Joel believes in not having an abundance of sites, why do you think he sells 50 new
niche sites a month?
[May Stewart]  
[May Stewart] He sells them to make money
[joshua] daaa
[jason] unique content, orwellpro
[James B] A...found them...here:http://www.7DollarSecrets.com/scripts/7DollarSecretsScripts.zip
[James B] http://www.7DollarSecrets.com/scripts/7DollarSecretsScripts.zip
[Joseph] This whole chat was a marketing ploy for Jonathan to make money as an affiliate by selling Joel's e-book
[steve] -------- Antrikkos - www.custom-wheels-n-rims.com and www.just-spinner-rims.com
[jason] unique content, jon's instant article wizard
[James B] yes, it sucked ....sorry
[James B] No new info really!

[bushibashir] jason can i get ur msn/yahoo id?
[Yvon Elysee] Guy, you have to listen and act. It's like that you succeed
[drwinn@griffingrid.com] I know he sells them to make money, but he seems to be preaching one thing and recommending
another.
[James B] Right on DrWinn!
[carmine gallicchio] no people want to make alot of money
[miskris] the point is that if you are interested in one of the niches of the adsense sites he sells YOU can develop
it .. it is the starting point
[carmine gallicchio] and either you have a lot of traffic or a lot of little sites that make a $1
dealoftheday.com type site going
[James B] Not a starting POINT! No-one here will make money from what Jon or Joell Says or SELLs you! Make a great
site that people want to go to and frequent...then you can monetize then make money...PERIOD
[carmine gallicchio]  
[seltz] yes that's just it, great content...
[carmine gallicchio] james your wrong
[James B] Carmine....you are wrong!

[James B] How much was your last adsense check Carmine?
[carmine gallicchio] jons adsense tracker is worth the money its under 100 bucks
[Kuruma Suzuki] it is the total traffic that really matters
[esh] james - you can't convience in that way   
[carmine gallicchio] joels dective is a bit pricy but never tried it
[James B] I only have 1 site...1 adsense check baby
[Antrikkos] How many work for Joel?
[TJ Short] I cant get the adsense tracker to work jon even tried
[Kuruma Suzuki] if you have one great site, that really is great
[James B] Exactly Antrikkos
[James B] Thankyou K...you prabably do too!

[Niels] yes... one great site that people can use....
[James B] oopps...probably
[carmine gallicchio] i use jon's adsense tracker it lays down a wealth of information, and if you use channels you
can find out what ads work and what ads to block... i found one click that paid me $34 dollars for 1 click
[esh] i have about 40 sites and make about $150/day
[Kuruma Suzuki] but i am not denying 1000 site making $10 each though
[terrypinto] could someone please put up the links again. I hit a wrong button and lost everything from this chat.
Thx!
[TJ Short] ah do you have to use channels
[James B] Right on esh!
[jonathanleger] Ok, I've wolfed down some chicken tacos and I'm off to work on the transcript. I'll post the link
here.
[Kuruma Suzuki] like I said, the total traffic is the issue here
[jason] bshearer, sorry AFK, I don't have online chat...What's your email?
[carmine gallicchio] esh nice.... all with some traffic, but not top 20k in the world right
[James B] I'm only saying is...it really only takes 1 site to get rolling....from there/ Who knows!
[carmine gallicchio] right i run 1 site
[Niels] I have a website where people can sent sms from, but I only get ads about sms or cheap phone... can I change
chat?
[bushibashir] bushi_bashir2010@yahoo.com
[Antrikkos] Hey guys I invite you to my website. Add quality contest and I will give you $1000 a month   

[esh] translation gold made that happen, my income raised from $70 to $150 in just 2 weeks.
[bushibashir] Jason i need some personal help
[Fernando Spindola] what was the link to the 1,000 visitors in 7 days report?
[jason] james, I've made money thanks to jon's instant article wizard, so you're wrong
[esh] though you can get kind of script for free these days   
[James B] Sweet esh..I thought about the translation thing...uh...I think there is a free script out there...gonna
have to look for it.

[Paul] anyone making adsense money from foreign language sites?
[jason] got it bushi
[carmine gallicchio] adsense tracker also deliveres you a list of keywords people are finding you with
[James B] What am I wrong about bro?
[bushibashir] ok. thanks
[Niels] Paul - I have a danish site.... not making a lot...
[Kuruma Suzuki] i'm japanese and i run japanese sites
[Niels] but it covers my expenses for the site
[jason] you said no one will make money from what jon or joel sell, jon sells instant article wizard, I made money
from it
[bushibashir] wud u plz write me a short note so that I can get ur email id and tell u some problems
[James B] What...I have to buy someone's product to make it!....bullcrap!

[jason] yes, bushi I will
[Paul] cool Niels thx...are you using the auto translate or real content?
[Kuruma Suzuki] better to keep up with english sites, cost per click is a lot higher
[bushibashir] ok. thanks
[esh] translation gold basically uses the google translation engine to make it work, and i hope webmaster can easily
create a script like that.
[Niels] Paul - Im danish so Im using real content   
[Antrikkos] yes and traffic from US pays more!
[Niels] Paul - but I will make in international website for SMS sending...
[carmine gallicchio] any way works 1 site with a lot of traffic or 100 small sites, making $1 a day, but joel is
right it takes time to update a site...but

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